Disclaimer: this is NOT an official fatwa or religious ruling article. only dedicated to the Curios RED ;) refer original article here
after doing a small research through the net, i found out that Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) includes 3 forms:
after doing a small research through the net, i found out that Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) includes 3 forms:
- clitorodectomy (partial and/or complete) [potong buang biji k******t]
- infibulation [jahit lubang kemaluan]
- circumcision [buang kulub]
the one in RED's blog is the 3rd one.
the custom is actually not from the Islamic rule and originated from northern Africa. it is a pre-Islamic practice adopted by the arabs during the Prophet's time.
now to answer the kampung people's allegations.
1. According to the villagers, female circumcision is a must due to religious purposes. Although in Malaysia the majority of muslims are of the Syafiee tribe (there are 4 tribes in Islam: Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki, and Syafiee), they are also muslims who are from the other tribes in Islam, that do not practice female circumcision. Only the Syafiee tribe does it and regard it as compulsory.
my answer: female circumcision is not a must but only recommended. click here. do note that i'm not an authority to rule down legal issues [find your local imam, mullah, alim or ustaz] but i'm merely explaining the issue. and RED, kindly correct, the Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki and Syafie are not refered as 'tribes'. they are the 4 schools of Sunni Islamic jurisdiction. not 'tribes' like the Hutus, Tutsis, Zulus or Masais in Africa.
2. The villagers strongly said that if you do not undergo circumcision, be it male or female, then you are not a muslim...If you are a Syafiee and you don’t undergo the circumcision process, you are not accepted as a muslim.
my answer: no. while being circumsized is a Muslim identity [as with the Jews], newly-converts are only required to circumsize when they are comfortable to do it. see here. you got it right when you said there was no ruling about circumcision in the Holy Quran. circumcision is prescribed by the Prophet as a fitrah and a continuation of the sunnah of Ibrahim.
3. The other reason that it is done is because the villagers believe if circumcision is not done on females, the part that is supposed to be cut off (a piece of hanging skin right above the urethral opening) will grow into a big piece of hanging skin that will not allow or make it difficult for penetration during sexual intercourse, in other words, will decrease the libido of that person.
my answer: this one, i honestly don't know.
regarding the malay tradition and culture, i think you have made a good job in documenting them. malays even have a working sanitary method resulting in no post-op infection. maybe you can research on that also :) hope you are satisfied.
the custom is actually not from the Islamic rule and originated from northern Africa. it is a pre-Islamic practice adopted by the arabs during the Prophet's time.
now to answer the kampung people's allegations.
1. According to the villagers, female circumcision is a must due to religious purposes. Although in Malaysia the majority of muslims are of the Syafiee tribe (there are 4 tribes in Islam: Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki, and Syafiee), they are also muslims who are from the other tribes in Islam, that do not practice female circumcision. Only the Syafiee tribe does it and regard it as compulsory.
my answer: female circumcision is not a must but only recommended. click here. do note that i'm not an authority to rule down legal issues [find your local imam, mullah, alim or ustaz] but i'm merely explaining the issue. and RED, kindly correct, the Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki and Syafie are not refered as 'tribes'. they are the 4 schools of Sunni Islamic jurisdiction. not 'tribes' like the Hutus, Tutsis, Zulus or Masais in Africa.
2. The villagers strongly said that if you do not undergo circumcision, be it male or female, then you are not a muslim...If you are a Syafiee and you don’t undergo the circumcision process, you are not accepted as a muslim.
my answer: no. while being circumsized is a Muslim identity [as with the Jews], newly-converts are only required to circumsize when they are comfortable to do it. see here. you got it right when you said there was no ruling about circumcision in the Holy Quran. circumcision is prescribed by the Prophet as a fitrah and a continuation of the sunnah of Ibrahim.
3. The other reason that it is done is because the villagers believe if circumcision is not done on females, the part that is supposed to be cut off (a piece of hanging skin right above the urethral opening) will grow into a big piece of hanging skin that will not allow or make it difficult for penetration during sexual intercourse, in other words, will decrease the libido of that person.
my answer: this one, i honestly don't know.
regarding the malay tradition and culture, i think you have made a good job in documenting them. malays even have a working sanitary method resulting in no post-op infection. maybe you can research on that also :) hope you are satisfied.
11 comments
Comment by Murlak_s on 3 Julai 2008 pada 5:43 PTG
huh.. tajuk menarik.. tapi aku x tahu sgt bab nie.. coz aku masih samar2 lagi faham kenapa pompuan perlu sunat.. klu laki, mmg aku tau la.. hurmm..
Comment by djambu puadovich on 3 Julai 2008 pada 6:10 PTG
maybe mmg xperlu, sbb tu nabi x suruh pompuan khatan. nabi benarkan saje, tu pun ada had2 tertentu.
[gile ah, laki kalo xsunat...xsnggup aku nk describe] :P
Comment by uShop on 3 Julai 2008 pada 9:53 PTG
wah wah wah yeop..macam biase je ngan laki x sunat!! kui3
dari pembacaan aku, laki sunat sbb kebersihan, pmpuan sunat sbb kehormatan!
huh kene byk menuntut lg nih~~
Comment by djambu puadovich on 3 Julai 2008 pada 10:22 PTG
profesional ushop, profesional! theehehe
ko biasa ke x? ;) ke 'luar biasa' biasanye...
SNAAAPP!!!
Comment by djambu puadovich on 3 Julai 2008 pada 10:23 PTG
lupa pulak, apakah definisi kehormatan ko dlm kenyataan di atas?
Comment by redSeptember on 4 Julai 2008 pada 8:38 PTG
hey djambu,
thanks a gazillion for the write up. i know, i was wrong when i said the mazhabs as tribes. they are better known as sects actually.
i am still doing this project under reasearch.
the blahdy net has been down for 2 days and we were still very bz till yesterday with the comm med.
semalam ada health campaign promo that we deigned and mmg bz bz bz... so, if there are nething new, nnt red tambah k
thanks again!
Comment by djambu puadovich on 4 Julai 2008 pada 11:27 PTG
u're welcome anytime. i'm glad you found my entry helpful. i hope other readers do too :) d links in my entry missed the part yg ckp pasal cultural thing tu. hmmm...well, bahan tu bersepah dlm internet pun. yg pro ada, yg con pun ada. we read both and try evaluate which is better, right?
true [regarding the word 'sect']. punya la pjg 'school of islamic jurisdiction'...terlebih rajin kot :P
can't wait for ur research report.
good luck in your research!
Comment by uShop on 5 Julai 2008 pada 2:57 PTG
pembacaan n keterangan aku dapat dari membe kat mesir;
maksud kehormatan di sini ialah lebih baik buat, lebih terhormat berkhatan seorang perempuan itu dari tidak...
byk pakar2 perubatan membuat kajin n bg satu kesimpulan, kesan tidak berkhatan pd wanita itu ialah menaikkan nafsu syahwat, dan kebarangkalian menjerumus ke sesuatu yg x diingini.oleh itu demi menjaga kehormatan, maka dituntutlah memotong sedikit dari hujung k****tit...
-selebihnya ALLAH LEBIH MENGETAHUI
Comment by djambu puadovich on 5 Julai 2008 pada 4:54 PTG
ooo...ok ok
Comment by eL Magnifico on 7 Julai 2008 pada 1:34 PTG
wahhh..besh giler..usop aka talam kunig pun ade?same geng ke?
Comment by Tanpa Nama on 7 Julai 2008 pada 6:37 PTG
hai el magnifico..ni afif @ lawak malaysia kn..?? haha jempot ar ke YELLOW TRAY!! :)
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